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What is the minimum recommended thickness for a backpacking tent floor to prevent early wear?

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The Seedhouse 2 (courtesy, Big Agnes)
What is the minimum recommended thickness for a backpacking tent floor to prevent early wearing out of the tent? Big Agnes sells a Seedhouse 2 tent with a rated trail weight of 3 lb, 14 oz. It sells a Seedhouse SL2 tent—the same size and design except for different materials—with a 2 lb, 14 oz. trail weight. One difference that saves weight: a 1,500 mm polyurethane-coated floor for the Seedhouse 2; 1,200 mm for the SL2.

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I don’t really know if there is a “minimum” recommended thickness. It all depends on how much you abuse a tent, and your tolerance for some premature wear and the possible need for replacing a tent.

Big Agnes deserves a nod for including coating information—that is indeed helpful information. In this case, even the coating for the Seedhouse 2 ($219) is on the light side. But that’s also because it’s a tent that, while well made and well designed, is competing a little bit on price. The Marmot Swallow 2P, by comparison, has 3,000 mm floor coating. But it also costs $339.

(An aside, what we are talking about here is not the thickness of the coating, it’s how much pressure from a vertical water column the coating can withstand before allowing leakage. The bigger the number, the taller the column, the more pressure the material can resist.)

Obviously, a floor with a lighter coating can save weight—all other things being equal. Marmot’s Aura 2p ($299) weighs about half of what the Swallow weighs. It’s also smaller, has a lighter (hence cooler) mesh fly, and uses various other weight-saving strategies. But it still has a 3,000 mm floor.

Myself, I wouldn’t agonize too much over it. What really helps is to get a roll of 4 mm clear plastic at the hardware store. Cut yourself a piece that is slight smaller than the footprint of the tent. Then pitch the tent atop that—that saves a TON of wear as you grind the tent into the dirt while sleeping. And there is a very small weight penalty. Just make sure none of the ground cover sticks out from under the tent, as otherwise it will catch rainwater and funnel it beneath the tent.




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